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I would push back on what you're saying a bit. Some flexibility is nice, of course. I won't argue it isn't. But Canon is more or less a product of internal consistency. And that internal consistency is what allows for the suspension of disbelief, and maintains a setting's identity. I would argue, even with no set canon, there are things about SCP that can't really be changed without SCP no longer feeling like SCP for anyone who is familiar with past works. While some changes and retconning might be necessary to tell stories, it should never be done lightly, because it will bug the audience and it will degrade the internal consistency of your works. And that is exactly why Star Wars and Warhammer 40k are so contentious right now. The current owners are actively trying to alter the canon such as to destroy the legacy that the original works inspired. I view such destruction as the worst kind of cultural vandalism. It is no different than ISIS going into museums and tearing down statues and artworks that was thousands of years old. It is grossly offensive. If you cannot accept the past conditions of a canon that you are writing for, you have no business writing in that canon.

The SCP foundation is Genocidal Bud, at least thats what I think,...

Nuclear is how we got scp 296

I'm forwarding this to the ethics department

The canons are not stupid…they’re unreliable! -TV Tropes

Hello, I'm a massive fan of SCP and a big fan of powerscaling and Vs Debating. I wanted to say that I am immensely happy about your videos on this topic, I've seen so much hate on both sides of the SCP Powerscaling discussion which has honestly saddened me, but your videos make me feel seen. You're absolutely right in all your points and it's so refreshing to see someone have such a clear knowledge on the topic, you've very clearly done your research on the subject. As for the controversy itself going on, this is honestly created by people that just don't read. The people that have been pestering authors have been neglecting to actually read the works of the characters and scale them themselves, the entire point of the hobby. And on the VSBW Site, we have a problem of people not reading and seeing that most SCP's are already split up into multiple versions. Many people go onto the site and just look at the numbers, completely ignoring the sections of the Article that say "Base Article, Extended Tales, Djoricverse, Kaktusverse, Canons", and go away thinking that it's just the absolute highest version of them, instead of thinking that different writers want to use different SCP's as their strong characters for their arcs. Now is VSBW's system perfect? No way, not at all. But they are very much on the right track of how to properly use SCP's in a Vs Content. Splitting up the characters between works from an author, hubs, and the official Canons will be of immense use, and honestly, they should definitely make those multiple windows so people don't get confused like they have been. We're close to the SCP Wiki getting a great depiction on VSBW and I hope that the site doesn't pull them when they're as close as they are. Thank you very much for the video, I've already shared it amongst some fans of SCP in the Vs Community that have honestly been tired of people not realizing there are multiple versions. I hope you have a lovely day after reading this, keep up the great work, you are not alone out here.

Hi Dr.Cimmerian, new subscriber here ✋. would you consider writing stories outside SCP universe? me personaly think, it would be great to see your perspective on other sci/fi, fantacy and philosophical geners.

I’m fine with both

thank god u did a dig at vsbw. it's a miserable website.

I really disagree with the points you've brought up in this video, mainly that "canon doesn't exist/canon is meaningless" because inconsistencies and retcons are inevitable. Maybe they are, if any piece of fiction is evolving from one thing to the next, inconsistencies ARE inevitable eventually, but does that mean trying to maintain a consistent timeline of events and understanding of characters is pointless? If nothing else just to try, regardless of if it's feasible or not? Maybe my canons ARE stupid, but I'm still going to try to make sense of something that is inconsistent. And when I make my own fiction, I'm going to do my best to clearly define what is real and what is not, even if it ends up being a Sisyphean task doomed to fail from the start. Also all of the examples you brought up other than SCP (disney star wars, WH40k cultural subversion, star trek) have all gotten WORSE in quality ever since their canons were being changed and retconned into all hell. The sequel trilogy of star wars is a JOKE compared to the original or even the prequels, and it only exists to shamelessly squeeze profitability out of a franchise that should have been relegated to spin-offs a long time ago. Disney had a chance of making an actually good successor to the original star wars trilogy (admittedly it wasn't a big chance but it was there), and instead they used the opportunity to colonize and wall-off star wars as being a franchise for THEIR new content only. And guess what? Most of it sucks, and it certainly isn't star wars anymore. Exceptions to the rule prove the rule, they don't invalidate it. There will always be plot-holes, there will always be retcons, nobody is perfect. But there IS a goal that all authors can aspire to, to keep the worlds they create as consistent to themselves as possible, and to allow others to build upon and expand what they have created, for better or for worse. It's a goal that I hold, and I know many others in my life who also see it this way. It's fine if you do not, and I'm not saying the SCP wiki does a bad job of running things as far as canonicity is concerned. But canons CAN be real, and in my opinion, to some extent they should be. It makes the world of the fiction more real, and immersive, and important. Apologies for the text wall, it's something I feel very strongly about.

yooo the new setup is so cool

Oh hey Dr C, did you see the new 3213 file read I did? There's a bit more than just a read in it tho 🤣

One valid complaint I heard on the Warhammer thing is that one dude would rather they focused on the Sisters of Silence. I don't know a lot about 4K to know how valid that take is tho.

I think it's the pervasive one ups manship that the scps can have that they may be referring to and given stuff like manga artists completely changing the scale of power towards the end so their characters look better next to Goku it's not that hard to imagine that kind of thing from less professional writers on the SCP wiki,

And this is why tv shows often suck. They go on for too long and lose the plot. The best media is fully integrated.

Missed you bro, glad to see you back!

Love the Black Mage there.

You look like you are about to do some gold panning

Cimm is absolutely ROCKING that General Ambrose Burnsides look.

8:27 Ok, you have no clue what you are talkeing about. I would like to know what you bleive are thses so call contradicions. the synoptic gospels do not contradict one another, like who found the empty tome. in Luke, its says the woman who found the tome were Matthew name the most imported woman who were there and mark name all of them. they do not contradict one another but says what is imported to them, and another reason for the truth of the gospels is that it says it was woman who found the empty tome, and during those days woman were not considerate reliable witness.

Unfortunately, all the media you mentioned have all become utterly unbearable to watch. I’d even say SCP isn’t as fun as it once was. Also, canon does exist. There is always a group of rules within a fictional universe that everyone collectively agree has happened. Lack of consistency is just a sign of writers apathy and laziness.

This whole situation is the perfect case study for why I prefer to think of SCP as an expanfing web of ever-shifting, interlocking canons, rather than "infinite canons" or "no canon"

That description is wild lmao 💀

Your beard is good.

Its about fun and entertainment! Tho we should never forget the our origins

Hey caught a new upload!

No, YOUR canon is stupid! *sniffle* Mine is both AWESOME and nonexistent. Nice beard. 😉

I do have an “Omniverse-Spanning AU” I’ve crafted into my head with the SCP Canon I crafted in my head being a small part of it. I’m just gonna come out and say that I’ve retroactively rewrote the laws of all Realities in this AU to where the pinnacle of powerscaling is shared by two beings: The Nothing and The Everything

Bro's rockin the 1850's beard, i respect it

Yoooo the setup is looking pretty good dude

I think I'm the first viewer, glad to see you upload!

The situation is actually very serious. And extremely dangerous. Much more dangerous than Mister D. I don’t mind the fact that he was banned - if at least half of the accusations against him are true - then one can only be surprised that he lasted so long. But all this desire to smack a character is not just pitifull and pathetic - it is extremely dangerous for the SCP community as a whole, setting a very ominous precedent. And the fact that the authors began to replace it with this “Shaw” does not speak in favor of the authors, showing their spinelessness. Cancel culture is a social cancer in itself, and a threat worse than many Keters. It disolves any community like rabies, forcing it to devour itself. There is nothing progressive about it - similar to Children of the Scarlet King The absolute effeminacy and spinelessness of people who are completely unable to accept anything that does not fit into their poor idea of the world, preferring to close their eyes and imagine that it does not exist, that it is better to hide it or forget it. (The Foundation itself also operates in approximately the same way) Trying to remove such a popular (not without reason) character is comparable to trying to create a single and coherent canon for the SCP universe, which, as we remember, was a fiasco. And I personally wonder if there are still people in the main branch who, spitting on this hysteria, will continue to write stories with Bright’s participation. In one case, the hysterics will spit on this and simply will not use Bright in their stories and headcanons. Because, as I already said, if there are people left who continue to write, deleting Bright will become pointless. Everything fits into the rules of the SCP community - if you don’t like some detail of the world, ignore it and don’t put it in your headcanon, which is also legitimate. Otherwise - if hysterics try to put pressure on these authors and demand compliance with the cancellation, begin to lower the ratings of new documents and stories, boycott the authors themselves, demand remove the character, and finally repress and ban - they will take a critically dangerous step with dire consequences for themselves . They will shoot themselves, and the community in the foot - if not the head. Since this goes against the concept of the absence of a rigid canon, the possibility of creating your own headcanon. As I already said, the situation creates a dangerous precedent when the entire content of the content was influenced by a hysterical irresponsible crowd, and contrary to all the rules of writing stories and the concept of the world as a multiverse. Like an attempt to impose abolition on the entire community and control it. This is exactly the thing, which CAN, if not destroy the SCP Community, then seriously undermine it. I hope that everyone in the main and outhers branches of community will not succumb to this mania of offended ones. And that Bright's Civil War will end in the first scenario. The stakes are too high. ________________________ "What's the matter, you dissentious rogues, That rubbing the poor itch of your opinion Make yourselves scabs?… He that will give good words to thee will flatter Beneath abhorring. What would you have, you curs, That like nor peace nor war? The one affrights you, The other makes you proud. He that trusts to you, Where he should find you lions, finds you hares; Where foxes, geese. You are no surer, no, Than is the coal of fire upon the ice, Or hailstone in the sun. Your virtue is To make him worthy whose offense subdues him, And curse that justice did it. Who deserves greatness Deserves your hate; and your affections are A sick man's appetite, who desires most that Which would increase his evil. He that depends Upon your favors swims with fins of lead, And hews down oaks with rushes. Hang ye! Trust ye? With every minute you do change a mind, And call him noble, that was now your hate; Him vild, that was your garland. What's the matter, That in these several places of the city You cry against the noble Senate, who (Under the gods) keep you in awe, which else Would feed on one another? Go, get your home, you fragments!" - William Shakespeare. Coriolanus.

Infographics might as well be CNN.

Elon Musk should pay lord bung to make a whole series

I'm a pretty big Doctor Who fan and I honestly never made the connection until I saw this. I think they're different enough that it doesn't matter.

Ok. I'm late to this party. Knowingly engaging in sexual conversation/sexually pursuing minors is terrible., disgusting, and deserves banning. Full stop Talking about your hobby on FetLife/OKCupid and getting laid from it. How is that bad???? How do you think people create intimate bonds that lead to sexual relationship?? talking about what they aren't interested in and speaking on subjects they don't commit their time to? You are treating being a contributor on an INTERNET STORYTELLING WEBSITE as an important position of power that is creepy to "abuse". if you think talking about your hobbies is abusing your power or in any way manipulative or coercive?? if you think being an scp moderator/admin is a significant position of power that one needs to be diligently serious in not abusing?? then please go outside and touch grass. You have reached terminally online. Also so what if kids are into the hobby? I paint 40k figures. So do plenty of kids. I will talk about my hobbies to find partners who share my interests. If I find out the person i'm talking to on a sex app is a non-adult then ill probably say something along the lines of "What tf are you doing on FetLife/Hinge/Bumble?!?!?! Get off this site and stop trying to have sex with adults. It will end badly for you. Please God stop." Then probably report the profile I don't care why they engaged with me on the app and i won't feel bothered that i share a hobby as a child. Thats usually when people start their hobbies. I certainly won't delete my hobby from my profile. How the hell else am I going to attract people with similar interests if I do that? What ill probably do is repeat what I told the first one should that ever happen again

So the SCP community had a McCree situation? Damn.

ROLL TIDE

i'm so happy the algorithm suggested me your channel! i was having a terrible day & you've really been helping put me in a better mood. please never stop doing what you're doing ❤

idk why popped up on my suggested but i'm absolutely blown away with the amount of care & consideration you put into this! i'm entirely unaware of this drama & from the sounds of it, i don't wanna investigate more, but i'm glad this was my introduction to your channel ❤ the ending almost made me cry 🥹 i subbed so i can get to know your content more & look forward to going into the spc universe with you!

_All_ human expression is _inherently_ political, the type of people who say things like "I don't like politics in my fiction" are typically alt-right weirdos who really mean "I'm too immature to enjoy works of fiction that don't 100% align with _my_ politics," that's not to say that works of fiction can get away with using certain political views as a crutch for bad writing, because that just makes the work feel shallow, regardless of the political views that influenced the work.

I love Dr. Jack Bright in the SCP Wiki and the SCP fandom because of his amazing goofy personality and stories but all good things have to come to an end for his author of the wiki who has absolutely abuse his admin powers to groom minors who is kicked out and have his author character avatar replaced by a different character who is like him in the same way.

Man i had a mini heart attack Because my name sorta sounds like orion, a name i sometimes use. I feel like i need a shower now too, that was really weird (what bung and Orion did)

i shall write an scp that is entirely redacted except for every instance of the word "The"

I love these guys I love this guy I love me I love Nobody

Who the d class are is very obvious. They are homeless there are millions of homeless people in the us alone that almost no one cares about and keeps tracks of

Im 15 i was born on December 1st 2008 let that sink in

this is why I've only ever backed one kickstarter and why I don't get invested in shows that start on youtube. If you're serious about creating something you'll make sure at the start that you're going to be able to see it to completion. All of these youtube series, even current ones like Digital Circus or Hazbin Hotel, feel like they're being created for fun and so they're going to be cancelled the seccond that fun goes away. It sucks having to basically preach the oposite of my usual "people do their jobs better when they're passionate about what they're doing" but if you are passionate about something then you make it your everything and you make sure nothing is going to stop you from continuing so I guess these people were just passionate about views.

So the scp wiki forcing rainbow logos drove out everyone except the perverts. Fascinating.